John Messenger
North Melbourne Kangaroos (ML)
John Messenger
Birthdate:
June 16, 1987 (35 y, 6 m, 22 d)
Born In:
Auckland, AUC, NZL
Nationality:
New Zealander
Position:
P
Bats/Throws:
R/R
Height/Weight:
6'0"/198
Entry:
2006 Draft - Round: 2, Overall: 23, Team: Canterbury Bulldogs
Contract:
$300k / 3 years (2021-2023)
ML Service Time:
12 years, 83 days
OSA Rating History
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Ratings Changes
2023-01-01
Weight decreased from 200 to 198
2022-10-20
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2022-09-29
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2022-06-12
Weight increased from 199 to 200
2022-06-05
Movement Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Movement decreased from 7 to 6
GB% decreased from 62% to 60%
2022-04-10
Stuff vs L increased from 5 to 6
Movement Potential increased from 6 to 7
Movement increased from 6 to 7
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
Control increased from 7 to 8
Control vs L increased from 7 to 8
GB% increased from 60% to 62%
2022-01-01
Weight decreased from 200 to 199
2021-11-01
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2021-08-08
Stuff vs L decreased from 6 to 5
Movement vs R increased from 6 to 7
GB% increased from 59% to 60%
2021-06-27
Stuff vs L increased from 5 to 6
2021-06-13
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2021-05-09
Stuff vs L decreased from 6 to 5
2021-04-18
Stuff vs L increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs L increased from 5 to 6
GB% increased from 58% to 59%
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2021-03-07
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2020-10-13
Weight increased from 199 to 200
2020-10-02
Weight decreased from 200 to 199
2020-09-18
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2020-09-12
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2020-06-28
Stuff vs L decreased from 6 to 5
Weight increased from 199 to 200
2020-06-21
Weight decreased from 200 to 199
2020-04-19
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2020-04-12
Stuff vs L increased from 5 to 6
Movement Potential increased from 5 to 6
Movement increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs R increased from 5 to 6
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
Control decreased from 8 to 7
GB% increased from 55% to 58%
2020-04-05
Weight decreased from 202 to 201
2020-03-09
Weight increased from 201 to 202
2019-10-17
Hold increased from 5 to 6
2019-09-19
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2019-08-18
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
Control increased from 7 to 8
2019-07-14
Contact Potential decreased from 3 to 2
Contact decreased from 3 to 2
Contact vs R decreased from 3 to 2
Contact vs L decreased from 3 to 2
Avoid Ks Potential decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks vs R decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks vs L decreased from 2 to 1
Stuff vs L decreased from 6 to 5
Movement vs R decreased from 6 to 5
2019-06-09
Contact Potential increased from 2 to 3
Contact increased from 2 to 3
Contact vs R increased from 2 to 3
Contact vs L increased from 2 to 3
Avoid Ks Potential increased from 1 to 2
Avoid Ks increased from 1 to 2
Avoid Ks vs R increased from 1 to 2
Avoid Ks vs L increased from 1 to 2
Control vs R increased from 7 to 8
2019-05-19
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2019-05-05
Stuff vs L increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs R increased from 5 to 6
GB% increased from 53% to 55%
2019-03-31
Sac Bunt decreased from 5 to 4
Stuff vs L decreased from 6 to 5
Movement vs R decreased from 6 to 5
GB% decreased from 55% to 53%
Changeup Pot increased from 2 to 3
Changeup increased from 2 to 3
2019-03-17
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2019-01-19
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2019-01-01
Weight decreased from 202 to 201
2018-10-11
Contact Potential decreased from 3 to 2
Contact decreased from 3 to 2
Contact vs R decreased from 3 to 2
Contact vs L decreased from 3 to 2
Avoid Ks Potential decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks vs R decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks vs L decreased from 2 to 1
Sac Bunt increased from 4 to 5
Infield Range increased from 1 to 2
Turn Double Play increased from 1 to 2
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
Control decreased from 8 to 7
Control vs R decreased from 8 to 7
Fastball Pot decreased from 8 to 7
Fastball decreased from 8 to 7
Changeup Pot decreased from 3 to 2
Changeup decreased from 3 to 2
2018-09-02
Contact Potential increased from 2 to 3
Contact increased from 2 to 3
Contact vs R increased from 2 to 3
Contact vs L increased from 2 to 3
Movement vs R increased from 5 to 6
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
Control increased from 7 to 8
2018-08-12
Weight increased from 200 to 202
2018-06-17
Contact Potential decreased from 3 to 2
Contact decreased from 3 to 2
Contact vs R decreased from 3 to 2
Contact vs L decreased from 3 to 2
Stuff vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Movement vs R decreased from 6 to 5
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
Control decreased from 8 to 7
2018-05-27
Eye Potential decreased from 2 to 1
Eye decreased from 2 to 1
Eye vs R decreased from 2 to 1
Eye vs L decreased from 2 to 1
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2018-04-22
Stuff vs R increased from 6 to 7
2018-03-18
Eye Potential increased from 1 to 2
Eye increased from 1 to 2
Eye vs R increased from 1 to 2
Eye vs L increased from 1 to 2
P defense increased from 3 to 4
Stuff vs R decreased from 7 to 6
GB% decreased from 57% to 55%
Hold decreased from 6 to 5
2018-02-12
Weight decreased from 202 to 201
2018-01-01
Hold increased from 5 to 6
2017-09-10
Movement Potential decreased from 6 to 5
Movement decreased from 6 to 5
GB% decreased from 60% to 57%
2017-07-30
Weight decreased from 203 to 202
2017-07-02
Movement vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Movement vs L decreased from 6 to 5
GB% decreased from 62% to 60%
2017-06-04
Movement Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Movement decreased from 7 to 6
Control increased from 7 to 8
GB% decreased from 63% to 62%
2017-05-21
Hold decreased from 6 to 5
Weight decreased from 204 to 203
2017-04-30
Stuff vs R increased from 6 to 7
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
2017-04-02
Gap Potential decreased from 4 to 3
Gap decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs R decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs L decreased from 4 to 3
Stuff vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Movement Potential increased from 6 to 7
Movement increased from 5 to 7
Movement vs R increased from 6 to 7
Movement vs L increased from 5 to 6
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
Control decreased from 8 to 7
GB% increased from 58% to 63%
2017-02-06
Weight increased from 203 to 204
2017-01-13
Hold increased from 5 to 6
Weight increased from 201 to 203
2016-09-30
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2016-09-04
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2016-08-14
Stuff vs R increased from 6 to 7
Control increased from 7 to 8
2016-07-24
Hold decreased from 6 to 5
2016-07-17
Gap Potential increased from 3 to 4
Gap increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs R increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs L increased from 3 to 4
Movement decreased from 6 to 5
2016-06-12
Gap vs L decreased from 4 to 3
Stuff vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Hold increased from 5 to 6
Slider Pot decreased from 7 to 6
2016-06-05
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2016-05-15
Stuff vs R increased from 6 to 7
Control decreased from 8 to 7
2016-04-03
Gap Potential decreased from 4 to 3
Gap decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs R decreased from 4 to 3
Stuff vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Movement increased from 5 to 6
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
Control increased from 7 to 8
Control vs R increased from 7 to 8
GB% increased from 57% to 58%
Changeup Pot decreased from 4 to 3
2016-03-20
Weight decreased from 201 to 200
2016-01-31
Weight increased from 200 to 201
2015-08-23
P defense decreased from 4 to 3
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
Control vs R decreased from 8 to 7
GB% increased from 55% to 57%
Weight increased from 199 to 200
2015-07-12
Stuff Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
Control vs R increased from 7 to 8
2015-06-21
Stuff Potential increased from 6 to 7
Changeup decreased from 4 to 3
2015-05-17
Gap Potential increased from 3 to 4
Gap increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs R increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs L increased from 3 to 4
Stuff Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
2015-04-12
Gap Potential decreased from 4 to 3
Gap decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs R decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs L decreased from 4 to 3
Infield Range decreased from 2 to 1
Movement Potential increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs R increased from 5 to 6
GB% increased from 53% to 55%
Changeup Pot decreased from 5 to 4
Changeup decreased from 5 to 4
2015-01-13
Weight increased from 195 to 199
2014-11-01
Weight increased from 193 to 195
2014-08-31
Movement vs R decreased from 6 to 5
GB% decreased from 54% to 53%
Slider decreased from 7 to 6
Weight increased from 192 to 193
2014-07-20
Movement Potential decreased from 6 to 5
2014-06-15
Movement Potential increased from 5 to 6
2014-05-04
Gap increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs R increased from 3 to 4
Control Potential increased from 7 to 8
Slider increased from 6 to 7
2014-04-13
Gap Potential increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs L increased from 3 to 4
Outfield Arm decreased from 2 to 1
Stuff decreased from 7 to 6
Movement Potential decreased from 6 to 5
Control Potential decreased from 8 to 7
Slider decreased from 7 to 6
2014-02-06
Weight increased from 191 to 192
2014-01-13
Weight decreased from 192 to 191
2013-10-26
Weight increased from 191 to 192
2013-09-08
Weight increased from 190 to 191
2013-08-18
GB% decreased from 55% to 54%
2013-07-14
Gap Potential decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs L decreased from 4 to 3
Movement decreased from 6 to 5
Movement vs L decreased from 6 to 5
Control vs R decreased from 8 to 7
GB% decreased from 57% to 55%
Changeup increased from 4 to 5
2013-05-26
Stuff increased from 6 to 7
2013-04-21
Weight increased from 189 to 190
2013-03-31
Gap decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs R decreased from 4 to 3
Movement Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Movement vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Control increased from 6 to 7
Control vs R increased from 6 to 8
Control vs L increased from 6 to 7
2013-02-24
Weight decreased from 190 to 189
2013-01-13
Weight increased from 189 to 190
2012-10-14
Eye Potential decreased from 2 to 1
Eye decreased from 2 to 1
Eye vs R decreased from 2 to 1
Eye vs L decreased from 2 to 1
Avoid Ks increased from 1 to 2
Avoid Ks vs R increased from 1 to 2
Avoid Ks vs L increased from 1 to 2
Infield Range increased from 1 to 2
Infield Error decreased from 3 to 2
Infield Arm decreased from 6 to 5
Outfield Error decreased from 2 to 1
Stuff decreased from 7 to 6
Stuff vs R decreased from 8 to 7
Stuff vs L decreased from 7 to 6
Movement Potential increased from 6 to 7
Movement vs R increased from 6 to 7
Movement vs L increased from 5 to 6
Control Potential decreased from 9 to 8
Control decreased from 7 to 6
Control vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Stamina decreased from 9 to 8
Fastball Pot decreased from 9 to 8
Fastball decreased from 9 to 8
Changeup Pot decreased from 6 to 5
Forkball Pot decreased from 7 to 6
Forkball decreased from 7 to 6
2012-09-08
Eye Potential decreased from 3 to 2
Eye decreased from 3 to 2
Eye vs R decreased from 3 to 2
Eye vs L decreased from 3 to 2
2012-08-05
Eye Potential increased from 2 to 3
Eye increased from 2 to 3
Eye vs R increased from 2 to 3
Eye vs L increased from 2 to 3
Stuff vs R increased from 7 to 8
2012-07-15
Weight decreased from 190 to 189
2012-07-01
Weight decreased from 191 to 190
2012-06-24
Slider Pot increased from 6 to 7
Slider increased from 6 to 7
2012-06-03
Gap Potential increased from 3 to 4
Gap increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs R increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs L increased from 3 to 4
Control increased from 6 to 7
Control vs R increased from 6 to 7
2012-04-22
Weight decreased from 192 to 191
2012-03-18
Eye Potential decreased from 3 to 2
Control vs R decreased from 7 to 6
GB% decreased from 58% to 57%
2012-02-18
Weight increased from 191 to 192
2012-01-19
Weight decreased from 192 to 191
2012-01-13
Weight decreased from 193 to 192
2011-09-04
Control vs R increased from 6 to 7
2011-08-28
Weight increased from 192 to 193
2011-08-14
Movement vs L decreased from 6 to 5
GB% decreased from 60% to 58%
Fastball Pot increased from 8 to 9
Fastball increased from 8 to 9
2011-07-03
Weight increased from 191 to 192
2011-06-12
Control increased from 5 to 6
Control vs L increased from 5 to 6
Weight decreased from 192 to 191
2011-06-05
Weight increased from 191 to 192
2011-05-08
Gap Potential decreased from 4 to 3
Gap decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs R decreased from 4 to 3
Gap vs L decreased from 4 to 3
Infield Range decreased from 2 to 1
Control vs R increased from 5 to 6
2011-05-01
Weight increased from 189 to 191
2011-04-03
GB% increased from 59% to 60%
Weight increased from 188 to 189
2011-03-20
Contact increased from 2 to 3
Contact vs R increased from 2 to 3
Contact vs L increased from 2 to 3
Gap Potential increased from 3 to 4
Gap increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs R increased from 3 to 4
Gap vs L increased from 3 to 4
P defense decreased from 5 to 4
Stuff increased from 6 to 7
Stuff vs L increased from 6 to 7
Control vs L increased from 4 to 5
GB% decreased from 61% to 59%
Slider increased from 5 to 6
2011-02-12
Weight increased from 187 to 188
2011-01-25
Weight decreased from 188 to 187
2011-01-13
Weight increased from 187 to 188
2010-10-21
Weight increased from 186 to 187
2010-09-05
Weight increased from 185 to 186
2010-08-22
Weight increased from 184 to 185
2010-08-15
Stuff vs R increased from 6 to 7
Movement vs R decreased from 7 to 6
Changeup increased from 3 to 4
Forkball increased from 6 to 7
Weight decreased from 185 to 184
2010-07-18
Movement Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Movement decreased from 7 to 6
Control vs L decreased from 5 to 4
Fastball increased from 7 to 8
Forkball decreased from 7 to 6
2010-06-20
Movement Potential increased from 6 to 7
Movement increased from 6 to 7
Control increased from 4 to 5
Control vs R increased from 4 to 5
Control vs L increased from 4 to 5
Forkball increased from 6 to 7
2010-06-13
Weight increased from 184 to 185
2010-06-06
Weight increased from 183 to 184
2010-04-25
Infield Range decreased from 3 to 2
P defense decreased from 6 to 5
Stuff vs L increased from 5 to 6
Movement increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs R increased from 6 to 7
Movement vs L increased from 5 to 6
Control increased from 3 to 4
Control vs R increased from 3 to 4
Control vs L increased from 3 to 4
Velocity increased from 93-95 mph to 94-96 mph
GB% decreased from 62% to 61%
Changeup increased from 2 to 3
Forkball Pot increased from 6 to 7
2010-04-11
Weight increased from 182 to 183
2010-01-13
Weight increased from 180 to 182
2009-10-15
Weight increased from 179 to 180
2009-08-02
Weight increased from 178 to 179
2009-07-12
Weight increased from 177 to 178
2009-05-31
Stuff increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs R increased from 5 to 6
Velocity increased from 92-94 mph to 93-95 mph
Changeup decreased from 3 to 2
2009-05-03
Stuff vs R increased from 5 to 6
Movement vs R decreased from 6 to 5
Slider increased from 4 to 5
Changeup increased from 2 to 3
2009-04-12
Contact increased from 1 to 2
Contact vs R increased from 1 to 2
Contact vs L increased from 1 to 2
Stuff vs R decreased from 6 to 5
Movement vs R increased from 5 to 6
GB% increased from 60% to 62%
Stamina increased from 8 to 9
Slider decreased from 5 to 4
2009-04-05
Speed decreased from 2 to 1
2009-01-19
Speed increased from 1 to 2
2009-01-13
Weight increased from 176 to 177
2008-10-25
Local Popularity decreased from Insignificant to Unknown
2008-09-18
Weight increased from 175 to 176
2008-08-17
Control vs L increased from 2 to 3
GB% decreased from 61% to 60%
Fastball increased from 6 to 7
2008-08-10
Weight increased from 174 to 175
2008-07-13
Stuff vs R increased from 5 to 6
Control vs L decreased from 3 to 2
GB% increased from 60% to 61%
Changeup increased from 1 to 2
2008-06-08
Control vs L increased from 2 to 3
Changeup decreased from 2 to 1
2008-05-11
Weight decreased from 175 to 174
2008-05-04
Slider increased from 4 to 5
Changeup increased from 1 to 2
2008-04-13
Forkball increased from 5 to 6
2008-03-23
Weight decreased from 176 to 175
2008-03-10
Infield Range increased from 2 to 3
Outfield Arm decreased from 3 to 2
Stuff Potential increased from 6 to 7
Stuff increased from 4 to 5
Stuff vs R increased from 4 to 5
Stuff vs L increased from 4 to 5
Movement vs L increased from 4 to 5
Velocity increased from 90-92 mph to 92-94 mph
Fastball Pot increased from 7 to 8
Fastball increased from 5 to 6
Slider increased from 3 to 4
Forkball increased from 4 to 5
2008-02-24
Hold increased from 4 to 5
2008-01-13
Hold decreased from 5 to 4
Weight increased from 175 to 176
2007-10-11
Local Popularity increased from Unknown to Insignificant
2007-09-09
Weight increased from 174 to 175
2007-07-29
Movement increased from 4 to 5
Control vs L decreased from 3 to 2
GB% increased from 59% to 60%
2007-07-22
Speed decreased from 2 to 1
2007-07-08
Speed increased from 1 to 2
2007-07-01
Gap increased from 2 to 3
Gap vs R increased from 2 to 3
Infield Range decreased from 3 to 2
Weight increased from 173 to 174
2007-06-10
Gap vs L increased from 2 to 3
Movement decreased from 5 to 4
Control decreased from 4 to 3
Control vs R decreased from 4 to 3
Control vs L decreased from 4 to 3
GB% decreased from 60% to 59%
2007-05-20
Weight decreased from 174 to 173
2007-05-13
Infield Range increased from 2 to 3
Infield Arm increased from 5 to 6
Stuff increased from 3 to 4
Stuff vs L increased from 3 to 4
Movement increased from 4 to 5
Movement vs R increased from 4 to 5
Control increased from 3 to 4
Control vs R increased from 3 to 4
Control vs L increased from 2 to 4
Velocity increased from 89-91 mph to 90-92 mph
GB% increased from 58% to 60%
Weight decreased from 175 to 174
2007-04-01
Weight increased from 174 to 175
2007-02-12
Speed decreased from 2 to 1
Weight increased from 173 to 174
2007-01-19
Hold increased from 4 to 5
2006-08-27
Control vs L decreased from 3 to 2
Weight increased from 171 to 173
Height increased from 183 to 184
2006-07-16
Stuff vs R increased from 3 to 4
Velocity increased from 88-90 mph to 89-91 mph
Fastball increased from 4 to 5
Slider Pot increased from 5 to 6
2006-06-11
Avoid Ks Potential increased from 1 to 2
Stuff Potential decreased from 7 to 6
Control increased from 2 to 3
Control vs R increased from 2 to 3
Control vs L increased from 2 to 3